President Trump defended his envoy Steve Witkoff’s leaked conversation as a “standard thing” that “a deal maker does.”
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Leaked Transcript of Witkoff Call Shows U.S. Deference to Russia

The White House envoy’s conversation suggests that President Trump is determined to make a deal to end the war in Ukraine, even if it is mostly on Russia’s terms.

by · NY Times

Last month, the White House envoy Steve Witkoff had encouraging words for a senior aide to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. President Trump, Mr. Witkoff said in a leaked phone call, “will give me a lot of space and discretion to get to the deal.”

The transcript of the call, published by Bloomberg News on Tuesday, touched off a fury in Washington because it showed Mr. Witkoff appearing to coach the Kremlin on how to negotiate with Mr. Trump and undermine an upcoming visit by President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine.

But it also laid bare something else: Mr. Trump’s stubborn determination to make some kind of deal with Russia to end the war in Ukraine, even if it is mostly on Russia’s terms — and despite months of false starts and rejections by Mr. Putin.

Along the way, Mr. Trump has stoked rare dissent among Republicans in Congress, shocked European allies and left many Ukrainians feeling abandoned by the United States. He has caused satisfaction in Russia, where stirring up discord within the Western alliance and anti-American sentiment in Ukraine is seen as a benefit in itself. And he has sparked a fierce debate in Washington, where his defenders contend that talking to Mr. Putin is the only way to stop Europe’s deadliest fighting since World War II.

“I’m not a massive fan of the president on a lot of things,” said Emma Ashford, a foreign policy scholar in Washington who supports limiting America’s global role. “But I think, actually, it’s to his credit that he keeps trying.”

As early as April, Mr. Trump was threatening to walk away from trying to end the war in Ukraine, warning that the United States might decide that “you’re fools, you’re horrible people, and we’re going to just take a pass.”

And yet, despite showing his frustration with both Mr. Putin and Mr. Zelensky, he kept coming back to seeking a Ukraine peace deal — spurred on by a mix of motives that appear to include both his horror at the loss of life and his desire for a Nobel Peace Prize. His efforts included eight phone calls with Mr. Putin, five meetings between Mr. Witkoff and the Russian leader, and an in-person summit in Alaska.

Up until last week, even past critics of Mr. Trump’s approach had praise for his willingness to bring pressure to bear against Mr. Putin. The United States sanctioned Russia’s two biggest oil companies in October, crimping Moscow’s ability to pay for the war. American weapons and intelligence kept flowing to Ukraine. Mr. Trump called off a summit with Mr. Putin in Hungary five days after announcing it, declaring that it would be a “wasted meeting.”

American policy toward Ukraine was “far better than any of us could have dreamed of, given the ups and downs in the course of the administration’s handling of the Ukraine war,” said Andrew S. Weiss, the vice president for studies at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

But the transcripts of leaked phone calls published by Bloomberg on Tuesday show that Mr. Witkoff and Russian officials were working behind the scenes in October on a new diplomatic push. On Oct. 14, Mr. Witkoff spoke to Yuri Ushakov, Mr. Putin’s foreign policy adviser, encouraging the Russian president to call Mr. Trump before an upcoming visit by Mr. Zelensky.

On Oct. 29, Bloomberg reported, Mr. Ushakov held a call with Kirill Dmitriev, an economic envoy for Mr. Putin who had just met with Mr. Witkoff in Miami. Mr. Dmitriev told Mr. Ushakov that he believed that a forthcoming U.S. peace plan would be as close “as possible” to Russia’s proposals.

Mr. Trump defended Mr. Witkoff’s leaked conversation as a “standard thing” that “a deal maker does.” Steven Cheung, the White House communications director, said the leak “proves one thing: Special envoy Witkoff talks to officials in both Russia and Ukraine nearly every day to achieve peace, which is exactly what President Trump appointed him to do.”

But in Congress, the leaked calls stoked already fierce criticism of Mr. Trump’s attempts to engage with Mr. Putin, even among Republicans. The Biden administration had sought to isolate Mr. Putin on the world stage, concluding that he was not interested in meaningful negotiations.

Representative Brian Fitzpatrick, a Pennsylvania Republican and co-chairman of the Ukraine Caucus, said on social media that “these ridiculous side shows and secret meetings need to stop.”

A Democratic co-chairman of the Ukraine Caucus, Representative Mike Quigley of Illinois, said in an interview that other than Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Mr. Trump’s team did not understand the need to “show Putin strength” and “how to best coalesce with your allies.”

“He acts so differently with Putin than anybody else in the world,” Mr. Quigley said. “It doesn’t make sense.”

On Tuesday, the U.S. Army secretary, Daniel P. Driscoll, met with a Russian delegation in the United Arab Emirates to discuss the Trump administration’s latest peace plan, his spokesman said. Mr. Trump posted on social media afterward that there were “only a few remaining points of disagreement.” The president said the plan had been “fine-tuned, additional input from both sides,” after a 28-point plan leaked last week provoked outrage for promising much of what Mr. Putin has sought.

But by Wednesday, a familiar dynamic was playing out. As in the wake of Mr. Trump’s past declarations that a deal was close, Russia appeared to be stalling for time.

The American peace plan “has not yet been discussed in detail with anyone,” Mr. Ushakov told a Russian reporter, according to Reuters. “We saw it, it was passed on to us, but there haven’t been any discussions yet.”

The negotiations are continuing, with Mr. Driscoll expected to travel back to Ukraine this week and with Mr. Witkoff planning a new trip to Moscow. But the wisdom of Mr. Trump’s repeated engagement with Mr. Putin has already turned into one of the most divisive issues in Washington.

Dan Caldwell, a former senior adviser to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, said in an interview that “much of the American foreign policy establishment is delusional about the leverage that the U.S. possesses in this conflict.” It has become clear, he contended, that American military support to Ukraine and sanctions on Russia have not been successful in getting Mr. Putin to change course.

“You have to engage the Russians, and you have to acknowledge the fact that there are going to have to be concessions made to them,” he said. “The alternative is the war continuing and the Ukrainian position continuing to deteriorate.”

Critics of that approach, however, maintain that Mr. Trump’s negotiations are helpful to Russia in and of themselves, even as the Kremlin strings the president along and continues fighting.

Eric Green, who served as the senior Russia director on President Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s National Security Council, said he believed that had Kamala Harris become president, the United States would have also sought greater engagement with Russia this year.

“There’s a way to do it without causing the level of concern among the Ukrainians and Europeans that we’ve caused,” he said, adding that the administration’s approach to the talks had also deepened the fissures between the United States and Europe and the United States and Ukraine.

“The Trump team’s ham-fisted approach to these negotiations has advanced all those Russian objectives,” Mr. Green said.

Megan Mineiro contributed reporting from Washington.

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